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		<title>The Best Time Loops &#038; Why Time Loops Aren&#8217;t Time Travel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 20:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>What are the best time loop movies &#038; shows? And what's the difference between a time loop story and a time travel story?</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of Groundhog Day, I&#8217;d like to share my personal ranking of the best time loop movies/TV shows:</p>
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<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/"><strong>Groundhog Day</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7520794/"><strong>Russian Doll</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162905/"><strong>Cause and Effect</strong></a> <em>(ST:TNG episode)</em></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1631867/"><strong>Edge of Tomorrow</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9484998/"><strong>Palm Springs</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0945513/"><strong>Source Code</strong></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5308322/"><strong>Happy Death Day</strong></a></li>
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<p>Now, before you comment &#8220;why isn&#8217;t <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6723592/"><strong>Tenet</strong></a> / <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/"><strong>Primer</strong></a> / [whatever other movie] on your list?!?&#8221; allow me a moment explain the difference between what I consider a &#8220;time loop&#8221; story and a &#8220;time travel&#8221; story. Although time loop stories do involve time travel, in my opinion they are a distinctly different genre.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Time travel:</strong> One or more people travel forward or backward through time, usually intentionally. Multiple instances of the person or people traveling through time may exist simultaneously.</li>
<li><strong>Time loop:</strong> One or more people repeat a relatively fixed period of time over and over, usually against their will. Through any given loop there is only one instance of the person or people repeating the time period.</li>
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<p>Even if a story covers the same period of time over and over like in <strong>Primer</strong> or <strong>Tenet</strong>, if there are multiple instances of the characters existing simultaneously, that&#8217;s a time travel story. And yes, I&#8217;ve seen the articles about <a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2548577/christopher-nolan-doubles-down-on-why-tenet-is-not-a-time-travel-film">Christopher Nolan&#8217;s claim that Tenet is &#8220;not a time-travel film.&#8221;</a> He&#8217;s wrong. It obviously is. The characters are travelling back and forth through time. What would you call that if not time travel? ?</p>
<p>I also want to mention a couple of great video games that use the time loop mechanic: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Majora%27s_Mask"><strong>Legend of Zelda: Majora&#8217;s Mask</strong></a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Wilds"><strong>Outer Wilds</strong></a> . I&#8217;ve played these each just a bit, but sadly I haven&#8217;t had the time to finish either one. There&#8217;s also a 1986 novel called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replay_(Grimwood_novel)"><strong>Replay</strong></a> by author Ken Grimwood that I&#8217;ve read and enjoyed.</p>
<p>Are there other great time loop movies, shows, or video games that I&#8217;ve missed? Let me know! I&#8217;m always on the lookout for great content in the genre.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://ellis.fyi/blog/time-loops-vs-time-travel/">The Best Time Loops &#038; Why Time Loops Aren&#8217;t Time Travel</a> appeared first on <a href="https://ellis.fyi">Ellis.FYI</a>.</p>
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		<title>Sharknado: Has the &#8220;Shark Genre&#8221; Reached its Logical Conclusion? NOPE.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Today on a group chat at work, the topic of &#8220;Sharknado&#8221; came up. [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today on a group chat at <a href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Redfin">work</a>, the topic of &#8220;Sharknado&#8221; came up.  Because of course it did.  In said chat, someone linked to an article in which the writer of &#8220;Sharknado&#8221; claims that &#8220;the shark genre has reached its natural and logical conclusion.&#8221;  I believe that we proved his thesis wrong.</p>
<p>For reference, here is the &#8220;Sharknado&#8221; trailer:</p>
<p><iframe width="770" height="433" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iwsqFR5bh6Q?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
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<p><div style="float:right; margin:0 0 0 10px;"><a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2013/07/12/201438989/sharknado-dares-to-ask-is-it-going-to-rain-giant-man-eating-sharks"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="http://timandjeni.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-NPR-300x225.jpg" alt="Sharknado" width="300" height="225" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2177" srcset="https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-NPR-300x225.jpg 300w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-NPR.jpg 450w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></div>
<p><strong>RT:</strong> <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2013/07/12/201438989/sharknado-dares-to-ask-is-it-going-to-rain-giant-man-eating-sharks">NPR: &#8216;Sharknado&#8217; Dares To Ask: Is It Going To Rain Giant Man-Eating Sharks?</a></p>
<p><strong>YO:</strong> I feel like I should revive <a href="http://amzn.com/B005FYEAJ8?tag=prioutfor-20">our shark air-swimmer</a>.</p>
<p><strong>NG:</strong> Sharknado was all the rage lat night on Twitter.  9/10 tweets were about it</p>
<p><strong>FN:</strong> OMG. Seriously, EVERYONE I follow on Twitter was going nuts about Sharknado.</p>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> Fin&#8217;s name should have been Foo. Then Foo could have owned a bar, and been friends with Baz.</p>
<p><strong>FN:</strong> The company that makes these movies is called <a href="http://www.imdb.com/company/co0042909/">The Asylum</a>. They were also responsible for the &#8220;Megashark vs.&#8221; series and other recent super low budget classics.  There was one with a mega piranha. <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/dvdextras/2010/05/paranormal_activity_vs_paranormal_entity.html">Here&#8217;s a 2010 article about The Asylum</a>.</p>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> The low-budget big action knock-off is such a funny niche. I&#8217;ve been watching a lot of <a href="http://www.rifftrax.com/">Rifftrax</a> recently of mid-80s straight-to-video knockoffs. There&#8217;s always the one or two big-name actors who are slumming or fallen on hard times, the incomprehensible plot, and the strangely professional cinematography and sometimes stunts.</p>
<p><div style="float:left; margin:0 10px 0 0;"><a href="http://io9.com/we-asked-the-writer-of-sharknado-some-very-serious-ques-736131336"><img decoding="async" src="http://timandjeni.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-io9-300x168.png" alt="Sharknado" width="300" height="168" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2178" srcset="https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-io9-300x168.png 300w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-io9-640x360.png 640w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-io9-624x351.png 624w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sharknado-io9.png 970w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></div>
<p><strong>FN:</strong> Last sharknado bit from me for today (I have so much work I&#8217;m avoiding!): <a href="http://io9.com/we-asked-the-writer-of-sharknado-some-very-serious-ques-736131336">io9 did an excellent interview with the writer</a>.</p>
<p><strong>GR:</strong> Ha ha, awesome: &#8220;Honestly, I don’t understand why people are so perplexed by this concept. The logic is undeniable.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>TO:</strong> That interview is hilarious.</p>
<p><strong>TO:</strong> &#8220;Has the shark disaster movie run its course, or are we just ramping up?  It&#8217;s called Sharknado. I think the shark genre has reached its natural and logical conclusion.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>NO:</strong> In other words, have shark movies&#8230; jumped the shark?</p>
<p><div style="float:right; margin:0 0 0 10px; width:375px;"><iframe loading="lazy" width="375" height="211" style="margin:0;" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/4jm6B31HKBw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div>
<p><strong>YO:</strong> What about sharks in space?</p>
<p><strong>YO:</strong> &#8220;Freddy vs. Shark&#8221;?</p>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> &#8220;Sharks on a Plane&#8221;?</p>
<p><strong>XW:</strong> Zombie laser sharks in space.  On fire.</p>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> Tsusharkmi</p>
<p><strong>GR:</strong> What if the Yellowstone Caldera were full of&#8230; SHARKS?!? &#8220;Megasharkano,&#8221; in theaters 2014.</p>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> <em>(clap)</em></p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> &#8220;Shark Impact&#8221; &#8211; Asteroid containing space-sharks on course to destroy Earth.  &#8230;or would that be &#8220;Shark-ageddon&#8221;?</p>
<p><div style="float:left; margin:0 10px 0 0;"><a href="http://www.badassoftheweek.com/megalodon4g.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="http://timandjeni.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Megalodon-228x300.jpg" alt="Megalodon" width="228" height="300" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2180" srcset="https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Megalodon-228x300.jpg 228w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Megalodon.jpg 266w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 228px) 100vw, 228px" /></a></div>
<p><strong>OS:</strong> <a href="http://www.badassoftheweek.com/megalodon4g.jpg">Megalogeddadon</a></p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> Ooh, nice.</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> I guess for the logic to be undeniable, it would have to be a comet containing frozen space sharks</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> +1 if the sharks are sentient/intelligent.  Then you could pull in the &#8220;Independence Day&#8221; trope.</p>
<p><strong>ET:</strong> RE: intelligent sharks &#8212; Deep Blue Sea</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> @ET good point; the movie should also feature the star power of LL Cool J.</p>
<p><strong>TO:</strong> Microscopic sharks (ala Fantastic Voyage; 1966) attacking the body from within!</p>
<p><strong>GR:</strong> Megashark vs. Microsharks!</p>
<p><strong>TO:</strong> Megashark thinks it killed microshark by eating it, microshark kills megashark from within, microshark dies due to a lifeless host.  A shakespearean shark tragedy!</p>
<p><strong>GR:</strong> You know what guys let&#8217;s just forget this real estate thing and pivot Redfin into a shark disaster movie company.</p>
<p><strong>YO:</strong> We can keep the company name.</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> Can we work zombie sharks into this?</p>
<p><strong>QS:</strong> @GR How do you know that this ISN&#8217;T a shark disaster movie?</p>
<p><strong>QS:</strong> Oh, hang on, guys. I&#8217;ll be right back…</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> Somebody&#8217;s at the door!</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> (Landshark!)</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> Man, the internets are sadly devoid of any SNL Landshark skits.  Wow; first aired in 1975.  Now I feel *really* old.</p>
<p><strong>NO:</strong> You know what  Twilight needed?  Hunky teenage sharks.</p>
<p><div style="float:right; margin:0 0 0 10px;"><a href="https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5858201856/h6A30768F/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="http://timandjeni.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Vampire-Sharks-chzbgr-300x296.jpg" alt="Vampire Sharks" width="300" height="296" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2179" srcset="https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Vampire-Sharks-chzbgr-300x296.jpg 300w, https://ellis.fyi/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Vampire-Sharks-chzbgr.jpg 492w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></div>
<p><strong>QS:</strong> <a href="https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5858201856/h6A30768F/">[Vampire Sharks]</a></p>
<p><strong>NO:</strong> Would vampire sharks work together with vampire ents?</p>
<p><strong>QS:</strong> I found <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDsUi2sJt6g">this trailer</a> when googling Vampire Sharks. It has, ah, homegrown charm.</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> How about weresharks?</p>
<p><strong>RF:</strong> That would be an unfortunate affliction to have you if you were landlocked during a full moon.</p>
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<p><em>FYI: I anonymized the chat participants and cleaned things up a bit for readability.</em></p>
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